So NP Thyroid is missing T4 completely from what I could tell, filled June 8th 2021. Learn more about how we ensure our content is accurate, thorough, and unbiased by reading our. Dont want cytomel too expensive. And none of the latter means you cant switch over to the two synthetics, But doing so wont change the cortisol problem is you do have one now from being underdosed. So the big question is: can it work better by raising?? We had talked about switching, but dr said he wanted to wait and try the pregnenolone. Armour is still working well for me at this point, but I may be because I raised my dose a few months back! This is because it works well and doesnt have too many side effects. I have had a thyroidectomy in 2009, I have yet been optimal. Didnt think to taste when I took them this morning, I usually try and avoid the taste but Ill report back on taste when I take my afternoon dose. Written by Cerner Multum. T3 does that when we do. I am thankful to Janie and this website. I also wake at 4:30 and dont like it. So its important that you receive the correct amount of thyroid hormones in each dose. 60 mg is simply a starting dose and it would be SUPER rare for that to be enough, no matter how you feel. Go to synthetic? Remember the goal: https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/optimal. Free T4 .56 (.79-2.19), Bloodwork on June 30 Dee, to the contrary, lab work is also extremely important. And having a cortisol problem seems to be still going on when you stated Even at THIS dose, PACs, while decreased a bit, were still prevalent. That doesnt at all necessarily point to a bad batch of Armour. yes, I got labs last week and I am not optimal. GoodRx provides no warranty for any information. And it is definitely not consistent among patients that Armour isnt working for anyone. Who here is on Levothyroxine and Cytomel/T3 and doing well? And this: https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info. Uhisnt that the goal? Dr thinks I may not be absorbing? I also wonder whether there is some new filler that only affects some of us? Its in fact a celebration. I have same symptoms but I didnt put two and two together with armour thyroidyesI have same symptoms and starting to think it is the Armour thyroid!! FT4 and FT3 very low for me and rT3 high at 20. another interesting fact with my blood work I had covid in Dec. : I tested D-Dimer and Fibrinogen (post covid blood test) D-Dimer high! Association between generic-to-generic levothyroxine switching and thyrotropin levels among US adults. We use the two synthetics similar to how weve always used desiccated thyroid (NDT). In fact, when anyone states Janie is not caught up with what is going on, in tandem with Its working for no one, its basically insulting (do they realize this?) Desiccated thyroid extract compared with levothyroxine in the treatment of hypothyroidism: A randomized, double-blind, crossover study. The only way that I was able to get better from the long COVID was utilizing something called Craniobiotic Techniques (see if there is a practitioner near you who does that; otherwise I do know of some in Wisconsin); otherwise, there is something out there called the FLCCC protocol that you can follow! Somethings wrong here and it needs to get fixed. I held on to NP and have been feeling great after the recalls. Now as time has gone by I am right back to the angry, irritable, non sleeping, painful joints that I had back in November. This medication differs from levothyroxine in several key ways, which may determine whether or not it's right for you. These are the result of my cutting meds back by 1/4 grain due to excessive PACs. Yet I worry about when im off ativan, about my energy. And you mention your iron being high normal, which is not where its meant to be. Please seek medical advice before starting, changing or terminating any medical treatment. First of all, I was on NP Thyroid, and got off of it when it started smelling like cat pee. I have been happily on Armour for over 2 years now. UGH! Free T4: 0.9 (range of 0.8-1.8) Armour Thyroid? More porky tasting than the previous several months. Now we are wondering what we can try taking NOW??? By Spryte, April 22, 2015 in The Chat Board Share Followers Reply to this topic Start new topic Spryte Members 14.7k Posted April 22, 2015 First, is it Armor or Armour? So your body will need to convert the T4 to T3 to have an effect. I use the io groups. Range Units Status Lab In a fair exploration of whether your current Armour is working, or is not working, its also important to know about being optimal, and to see if you can achieve it. The reason I recently asked my doctor to prescribe the 30 mg (x6 a day for a total of 180 mg) is to see if I can confirm a theory that the 30s are maybe working better than the 180 strength. My labs were ok just a little out of range but close. Idrees, T., et al. When i weaned hydrocortisone i developed shooting adrenaline, fear and anger and completely unable to sleep, at all, so was out on ativan on ER, so ive been back on hydrocortisone since 2013 which i do not like! I was feeling really well, and now I am painfully tired all the time. 5.1 (2.0-4.4) Like someone else mentioned. Not again! But pacs or palps could have happened because your previous dose was also too low and keeping you hypo, as well. Is naturethroid still recalled? Blows me away. For many people, supplementing T4 alone with levothyroxine is enough to raise low thyroid hormone levels. Or a prescription insurance? I know this seems to cycle around every decade with issues with NDT, but I would have thought now over 2 years into this one, that it would have been resolved, and wed all be back in our piggy bliss. We We do seek to make sure we get optimal though. That made me laugh. Switched to all armour-zombie. I seriously have no idea how long this will be happening, or even why we have two opposite experiences among patients for awhile now. Because of this, Armour Thyroid shouldnt be used to treat hypothyroidism during pregnancy. Armour has been chewed up and swallowed. Its important. So I havent been able to get this whole thing in order, really. Be skeptical! I am convinced Armour is not working for me either. Id just gotten this email two days prior and decided I wasnt going to mess around anymore and had my practitioner prescribe Synthroid. Are either of you? 5705185. Is the Armour causing inflammation?? The labs below were done in August. NP, 30 mg. Amour) increasing the Armour until it was 100%. However, four months ago I decided to try Armour again & asked my Dr. for the switch. See this: https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info And this: https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/pooling. Was 21.99. Ive been in contact with Allergen. Over the years have been mostly on Armour, then ERFA when things went down hill with Armour. Most of our prescription drugs now come from China. Im filing an adverse event report next week. If the chiropractor does a good job on me, he stimulates my adrenal nerve which helps tremendously. T3 was bottomed OUT. I caught wind of that many weeks ago but have still been evaluating what Im seeing from those patients, too, plus delayed due to whats going on in my private life. As everyone knows finding a doctor to address these somewhat weird issues they just have no clue was told to reduce thyroid med because of TSH being too lowJeez. But, here is what I think. Armour Thyroid (desiccated thyroid) is an older type of thyroid replacement thats sometimes referred to as natural thyroid. FT3 2.8 (2.3 4.2) Thanks for all you do Janie! This was about the same time I went hypo. That is usually how I tell if its potent or not. It may not be Armour as if something is wrong with Armour. Ive tried increasing my 60mg of Armour to 120mg. This should be done under the supervision of a healthcare provider and will require a new prescription. Adjustments may be made based on your lab results, any medical conditions you have, and what medication youre taking. There is definitely a group that I have heard repeatedly now bullies its members and bans them. His website states that ALL NDT comes from one source in the USA. Old were easier to bite and dissolves quicker. Will there be any negative side effects of such a low starting dose? I switched from Naturethroid to Armour recently & hypo symptoms started right back up. People were having allergic reactions and constant dose adjustment. crashy even though I am more alert than without it I want to nap which I do on the weekends. You sell it to the drug companies who are then making Thyroid pills and selling it to pharmacies. (2013). Several reported that by chewing it up, they were able to get out of their hypothyroid state again. So odd, my issue is I feel amazing on it one day and then the next I feel like I have a heart attack; I went on tirosint, that seemed to be good, but I still feel tired or sleepy. So in the spirit of exploring all aspects of this topic, you might want to explore this page: https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info If the info on the page makes you suspicious as well, youll see a link to order a saliva cortisol test, too. Its impossible to do it sublingually because it forms a terrible paste that doesnt dissolve. Did not like it. ! Black and white. So 90mg of NDT is equal to 57mcg of T4 and 13.5 mcg of T3 (based on one grain equaling 38/9mcg of T4/T3). For those of you that it works for I am glad it does. I only feel well if my FT3 is at the top of the range or if they will let mea point or two over. If you are only on Tirosint, you need to read this: https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/t4-only-meds-dont-nwork. woW. Now feeling crappy again, need a nap at 1:30 pm every day and have put on nearly 10 lbs. Hope things get better for you. (n.d.. Levoxyl description (levothyroxine sodium). Been a struggle to find the sweet spot. Youre welcome. https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/reverse-t3, Hi. I also have had to take ativan to sleep. Also, low frees keep you hypothyroid, which in turn stresses your adrenals. Right now, on a lot that I began taking in late July, Im having a return of the PACs and flutters that I had on the NP batches that were recalled for super-potency. Even so, more research is needed to confirm any differences in effectiveness and side effects. Anyways at least I have your book which completely changed how I see hypothyroidism and how I will treat it from now on, thanks to you Janie !!! I just had my saliva cortisol checked and it shows very high morning cortisol which explains a lot. Fe saturation not in a bad range (w/ KI in the form of iThroid). Lab order was screwed up. So here we go again. The side effects are severe itching, head to toe, and hair falling. But your healthcare provider may recommend Armour Thyroid based on your preferences, response to other medications, or other factors. I know I cant digest many forms of cellulose well, told the compounding pharmacy not to use it but they used it anyway. Thanks again.you and this site have helped me so much. Find something that works, and then it changes or we cant get it (or both). They are only live right on the blog post, plus being on the actual blog is where you can post a comment.. Janie, is there a way I can send pictures? Use the Contact Me form to say you have a photo of [fill-in-the-blank] to show me. We also carry 300mg and 240mg strengths most of the time. It is perfectly normal for the TSH to go quite low with T3 in our treatment. Then a backfire somewhere down the line. Expiration is 9/7/22. Is it equally okay to take them sublingually also for better absorption? ( also added Contrave for weight loss- hoped the naltrexone would help- minimal weight loss after 8 weeks) I have not been on Synthroid in 15 years- but never found an optimal range with any NDT but lots of Dr resistance and availability issues. Levothyroxine is the first-choice treatment for hypothyroidism. But of course, we are all different and it may not work well for some, particularly if they are using hard illegal drugs, which is an exploding problem throughout the world. GoodRx Health has strict sourcing policies and relies on primary sources such as medical organizations, governmental agencies, academic institutions, and peer-reviewed scientific journals. My latest labs were 2 weeks ago and levels are still optimal with all hypothyroid symptoms eliminated. My complaint is this ridiculous ocular problem. I want to start out saying that I have seen some strangeness myself from some patients on Armour even while others are still doing well. I gained weight, had a low temperature, and felt awful on NP even with my usual dose of Cytomel. Karen, congratulations!! If needed, your healthcare provider will gradually increase it over time. FT4 1.6 (.82-1.77) Grinding it up & raising a little bit has made a world of difference. And Ive got a slightly older batch of compounded I can test that theory with pretty quickly and will do so today. In summary, could your symptoms and labs be due to a bad batch of Armour? Angie F. How can I talk to you about getting compounded NDT? When optimal, i feel like a million bucks. Hi Dawn. Ran labs to see what was going on and quit after that. I am hesitant to go back on Armour given the lack of significant rise in lab levelscertainly not optimal for me even with the extra 25 mcg Cytomel..and will discuss with my doctor. (2020). Specifically I wanted to use the Phosphatidyl Serine. If you havent fully read it, this is our goal: https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/optimal. Helps you get and maintain an erection when you need it. I just want to report that my husband and I both take Armour and have not seen any changes. Sign up for our newsletter to get expert tips on condition management and prescription savings. Armour does seem to be somewhat inconsistent in potency at times. Its all bizarre. Finally got all my labs optimized and soon after developed a serious case of A-Fib. I was feeling the same as you. After 8 more weeks I had new labs and my FT4 and FT3 hadnt gone up significantly and were still not optimal (FT3 3.6 (2.0 4.4) FT4 direct 1.13 ( .82-1.77) though my rT3 had fallen to 15.4, still not good but better. i wish it cost less but it sure However, an all T3 regimen also has challenges and I am still struggling to become optimal and considering eventually adding Tirosint. Labs perfect. Thats crazy. Im convinced that a pure T4 formulation We wont pay for Armour prescriptions anywhere, but oh, you can get it at OUR Humana pharmacy. Your symptoms sound more like a reaction to a filler, but since its a new bottle, it does make you wonder. The only time Ive been able to remain optimal was on the OLD WP + Cytomel. I have pictures but I dont see an option to load pics. You can feel good before the frees are optimal and thus end up seeing a backfire. Has the formula been changed recently? Been on 2.5 grains of Armour since the Naturethroid recall (was on 2.5 grains of NT as well). BUT, it wont be a strong comparison if you werent optimal before. Journal of the Endocrine Society. Very interesting theory, Sue. My doctor switched me to Armour at the same equivalent dose Id been on with WP and NP and same Cytomel I always need25-30 mg since 2009 regardless of T4 source, the lower with NDT. Different taste, size of pill etc. AP is one one side, other is 330. Im one who was on NP when it started smelling like cat pee. It is very rare that only 120 mg makes someone optimal. You stated that the compounded meds also feel strong. I dont have many of the pieces left. Stay well. It is a serious matter when the company and manufacturer do not believe the patient symptoms. But to the contrary, there are opposite reports, tooothers whose symptoms or labs prove it's working for THEM still, even after picking up new prescriptions, one after another, and redoing labs to figure things out. But to add to it, my doctor prescribed me pregnenelone. 1,2,9 - Dessicated thyroid (Armour thyroid, NP Thyroid, Nature-Throid, Westhroid) Dessicated thyroid may increase the risk of cardiovascular events in the elderly, especially those with coronary artery disease. Thanks so much! Thyroid. So consider what I said, and I on my end will wait until we have far more people, far more connection to Armour that something is wrong, than we have now. If you are a drug company, needing to supply your manufacturing facility with porcine powder, and you want to be profitable, it is very tempting to start buying your porcine powder from China. The initial 6 months were good but now my hypothyroid symptoms are all over the place. I thought my weight gain was from the crap I ate during lockdown but turns out my Armour made my labs out of wack. We were definitely doing that after Armour changed in 2009chewing it up. (2019). Thanks so much, Janie. Blood measures mostly bound, unusable cortisol. Armour Thyroid is made from animal sources, whereas levothyroxine is synthetic (man-made). For this reason, we recommend that you order 6 months' supply or less per order. RT3 11 (8-25) ESTRACE (estradiol vaginal cream, USP, 0.01%) Other. (2022). Time will tell. California/Orange County area. This is compared to the old tablets from the last time I picked them up, in June. (I usually went to Lab Corps so I could make sure the time of day was always the same)I When the labs came back, WALLA ! (2020). Thats great. So I taste the new pill. Hi Janie, I have not run labs in a while as Ive been stable on 240mg for years. A contaminant or something else going on. I shudder to think how many of the US prescriptions come from China. What Are Side Effects of Armour Thyroid? I dont know what to do. Im new to the group and using Armour. But to the contrary, there are opposite reports, tooothers whose symptoms or labs prove its working for THEM still, even after picking up new prescriptions, one after another, and redoing labs to figure things out. Should I go back to Synthroid and ask to add in T3? Ive been on 105 mcg of NP Thyroid for the last 1.5 years after being on Synthroid for 20 years for hypothyroidism. TSH 7.650 0.450-4.500 UIU/ML ABOVE HIGH NORMAL Final 01 When optimal, i was able to eat anything i liked and didnt gain or lose. Its been one month, and labs are due soon. The two main hormones made by your thyroid gland are T4 (thyroxine) and T3 (triiodothyronine). Out of no were I hit the wall the other day, if you even considered looking at me wrong I would take your face off, and after I did I felt like crap for doing it, I have joint pain, anxiety to the extreme, my entire body shakes internally, I can not hold a focused thought or conversation. Fibrinogen normal. It is a storage hormone that must be converted within the body (brain, liver, kidneys, thyroid gland and in the tissues of the body) to the active t3 hormone. A lower starting dosage, 15 mg/day, is recommended in patients with long-standing myxedema, particularly if cardiovascular. My new tablets actually taste sorta like the good old NP. Thyroid Hormones. Ive lifted weights 3 decades and have gained 50 lbs, skin is painfully dry, zero energy. My doctor has hypo herself and she switched herself from NP to a combination of Tirosint and Cytomel and feels fine. How childish. But saying across the board hasnt yet meant that Armour is as profoundly across the board the way Naturethroid was, the way WP was, the way the 2019 NP was. Armour Thyroid is available in generic form. All in all, this is the twilight zone when it comes to NDT. T4,FREE + TSH 07/15/2020 (#2837115, Final, 07/14/2020 9:22am) Stressed adrenals release adrenaline, which causes heart palps. One other possibility: your weight gain can be because your RT3 has gone up. It strikes me that the pharmaceuticals need to be better From what I am reading it is 6 weeks for Synthroid to work and 2-3 days for Cytomel to take affect, so what do I do in the in between time why I wait for these to start working. With synthetics, we start somewhere close to those two amounts, based on the mcg of the T4 and T3 pills. Both are 90 day supplies of 90mg from CVS mail order pharmacy delivered to Decatur GA. Since January, I have started feeling increasingly tired and losing hunger. This is not to be taken as personal medical advice, nor to replace a relationship with your doctor. Thats because the T3 in thyroid extracts cant reach a developing babys brain. DESCRIPTION ArmourThyroid (thyroid tablets, USP)* for oral use is a natural preparation derived from porcine thyroid glands and has a strong, characteristic odor. https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/optimal Instead, the strong proof that Armour may have changed is when someone used to be optimal, then new labs on the same amount arent showing it at all anymore. Ill have to go off of it to see if I notice a difference and which one it is. And that is before they put insecticide or rat poison in it to get even higher. When WP became unavailable, first I tried a compounded T4+T3 and had a drastic fail according to my labs. Rodent and insect infestation, drug cross contamination in the machines, you name it. We have to drive about 45 min to a Quest or LabCorps location if I order my own labs. Any thoughts on this? I switched to armour and was complaining about it from day one. And if you feel you arent, its either time for a raise to achieve this https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/optimal or you can add T3. On Feb 2 and April 30, I took my full dose of Armour 24 hours before the test, but on September 30, I took 1/2 the dose 24 hours before test and the other 1/2 12 hours before the test. Because youve stayed on just a starting dose so long is why this is happening. You can unsubscribe at any time. The UK is the first country to allow OTC access to Sanofi's tadalafil-based erectile dysfunction drug Cialis following a successful switch. I also have seen my RT3 drop and I have a theory that were either getting inferior raw material in all of the brands at one time or another a/o the companies are boosting the raw material with T3. Employees of competing brands may be responsible and those manipulating stock prices love to start rumors. Your hair loss can be from being overdosed. You may be able to pay as little as $34.77 at certain pharmacies with a free GoodRx coupon. Then you can switch the Armour for T4/Synthroid maybe at a starting dose of 50 mcg. 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Its a synthetic (man-made) version of T4 thyroid hormone. I wondered if it should be increased and I secretly tried doubling the dose to get through a work day and it seemed to help, but my doc says my labs are looking good and theres no need to increase it so he just rewrote a 60mg prescription for the next 6 months. Or the batch of clueless doctors to put their finger on that. Currently was on 3.5 to 4 tabs of 60mg of Armour. So of course I dont have labs or symptoms to report yet. FT4 0.8 (.8-1.8) And in my decades of service as a firefighter, heavy drug users are LEAST likey to tell the truth. Comparative effectiveness of generic vs brand-name levothyroxine in achieving normal thyrotropin levels. Thyroxine and treatment of hypothyroidism: Seven decades of experience. You are in a group of many who are still doing well. it took armour to get me back in normal rangei had been on nature throid for years and I have to agree with all of what Janet has said I did get a 90 day new script filled. Liothyronine is also available in generic form. Well, along comes China. $160 for only 90 tabs?? Treatment with thyroid hormone. Speak with your healthcare provider about which thyroid medication is best for you. It can also point that you having a cortisol problem is still causing issues no matter what you are on. You can see a slight difference in width, color and height. Im ready to go back to my Synthroid but get nervous about no T3. I was previously on Nature Thyroid (2 years ago) and was not aware they were having problems. Then it just stunk the last 2 months. Sorry you are going through this. I also have half of my thyroid as of 2015. Insert loud obnoxious voice: FOR NO ONE! If my treatment needs increasing, I would determine that based on whether my free T3 or free T4 is not in the optimal range yet? Extreme exhaustion, nausea, headaches. We simply arent doing this exploration with wisdom by ignoring symptoms or labs which can happen even with a working NDT, not just with a badly working NDT. Attention-getting end of story. Desiccated thyroid gland contains both T3 and T4, which may explain why some people prefer this formulation. The ratio of T4 to T3 is different from whats normally produced in humans. Your dose will change if you switch medications. There are some serious pros to this method but there's a lot you should know before you run out and give it a try. Iron fine. But lab improvement doesnt always equal optimal. Ill have to call the pharmacy and see when that happened. Approved as a pharmacy medicine, Sanofi will launch Cialis Together in the second half of the year. 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